Chevrolet Aveo problems
The Chevrolet Aveo (/əˈveɪ.oʊ/ ə-VAY-oh) is a five-passenger, front-drive subcompact car (B-segment) marketed by General Motors (GM) since 2002 over two generations. Originally developed by South Korean manufacturer Daewoo Motors and marketed as the Daewoo Kalos, the takeover of Daewoo by GM to form GM Daewoo Auto & Technology (GMDAT) resulted in the car's marketing in 120 countries under seven brands (Chevrolet, Daewoo, ZAZ, Holden, Pontiac, Ravon and Suzuki) — prominently as the Aveo.
The second-generation Aveo, developed by GM Korea (formerly GMDAT), was introduced in 2011 and was also marketed as the Chevrolet Sonic in markets including the Americas, Japan, Middle East, South Africa and several Southeast Asian markets. Production of the second-generation model ended in October 2020.
Since 2017, GM marketed the Chinese market Chevrolet Sail sedan in Mexico and other Central American countries as the Aveo. Developed by GM PATAC in China and produced by joint venture SAIC-GM, it was positioned below the more advanced Sonic. In 2023, GM imported a new version to Mexico in a sedan and hatchback form, developed and manufactured by another Chinese joint venture, SAIC-GM-Wuling.
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Chevrolet Aveo model years
Common Chevrolet Aveo problems
The Chevrolet Aveo, produced by General Motors, has been known to have several common problems based on complaints from owners. These issues span across various model years, with engine problems being the most prevalent category of complaints.
One of the most frequently reported problems is timing belt failure. This issue is particularly common in the 2004 model year, with 57 complaints.
Another engine-related issue is the idler pulley breaking in half. This problem has been reported 10 times in the 2005 model year. The idler pulley is part of the engine's accessory drive system, and its failure can cause the engine to run poorly or not at all.
The 2007 model year has also had engine problems, with 8 complaints about engine failure and 7 complaints about the engine stalling or dying while driving. These issues can be caused by various factors, such as electrical problems, mechanical failure, or issues with the engine's fuel system.
In addition to engine problems, the Chevrolet Aveo has also been known to have issues with its fuel pump. This problem has been reported 5 times in various model years. A faulty fuel pump can prevent the engine from starting or cause it to stall while driving.
The Aveo's starting system has also been a source of complaints, with 9 reports of starting problems across various model years. These issues can be caused by a variety of factors, such as electrical problems, issues with the starter motor, or problems with the engine's ignition system.
The car's check engine light has also been a common source of complaints, with 8 reports across various model years. The check engine light can indicate a wide range of problems, from minor issues like a loose gas cap to more serious problems like engine misfires or issues with the catalytic converter.
The Chevrolet Aveo has also been known to have issues with its gearbox. One common problem is difficulty shifting gears, particularly from 1 to 2 or from 3 to 2. This issue has been reported by several owners and can be caused by various factors, such as worn clutch components or issues with the transmission's hydraulic system.
Finally, the Aveo has also had issues with its exhaust system, with several reports of excessive gasoline consumption after cleaning the oxygen sensor in the exhaust system. This issue can be caused by various factors, such as issues with the engine's fuel system or problems with the car's emissions control system.
In summary, the Chevrolet Aveo has been known to have several common problems, particularly with its engine and starting system. These issues can be caused by various factors and can lead to significant repair costs. It is essential for Aveo owners to stay vigilant and address any issues promptly to prevent further damage and ensure the safety of their vehicle.
Is the Chevy Aveo a reliable car?
RepairPal gave the Aveo an above-average 4.0 out of 5.0 rating, ranking it 13th out of 21 subcompact cars. According to reports, this car can last over 200,000 miles as long as you take good care of it.
Is the Chevrolet Aveo good for long drive?
Good for travel for long distance travels but not much suitable for daily commute within city limits.
Are Chevy Aveos good on gas?
However, the Aveo largely abandoned this niche. For a start, fuel economy was surprisingly poor for such a little car. The EPA rated it at 27 mpg city, 35 mpg highway, and 30 mpg combined in old three-cycle testing, and that's if you didn't opt for the four-speed automatic.
What is the maintenance cost of Chevrolet Aveo?
Chevrolet Aveo Service Cost & Maintenance Schedule
| Service No. | Kilometers / Months | Total Cost |
|---|---|---|
| 1st Service | 5,000/6 | Rs.972 |
| 2nd Service | 10,000/12 | Rs.260 |
| 3rd Service | 15,000/18 | Rs.972 |
| 4th Service | 20,000/24 | Rs.840 |
Percentage distribution of complaints by Chevrolet Aveo years
We have researched Chevrolet problems and analysed all the complaints filed against Chevrolet Aveo cars and compiled the top 5 most problematic Chevrolet Aveo model years:
Below you can see the percentage distribution of known problems by Chevrolet Aveo model years.
Distribution of the number of complaints by Chevrolet Aveo years
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Chevrolet Aveo car problems categorized by type of issue
After analysing all complaints related to Chevrolet Aveo , it was concluded that the most common issues with these cars are:
- Electrical system problems
- Air bags problems
- Engine and engine cooling problems
- Exterior lighting problems
- Engine problems
The graph below shows statistics for all Chevrolet Aveo vehicle components and the number of complaints received.
Distribution of the number of complaints where the accident occurred by Aveo model years
A total of 128 complaints were registered in which the accident occurred. In the graph you can see the distribution of the number of complaints by model year.
Distribution of the number of complaints with fire by Aveo model years
There were a total of 74 complaints that resulted in a fire. In the graph you can see the distribution of the number of complaints by model year.
Distribution of the number of complaints with injuries by Aveo model years
There were a total of 112 complaints that resulted in a injuries. In the graph you can see the distribution of the number of complaints by model year.
Distribution of the number of complaints with deaths by Aveo model years
There were a total of 7 complaints that resulted in a death. In the graph you can see the distribution of the number of complaints by model year.
The NHTSA has received 1317 complaints about various vehicle components related to the Chevrolet Aveo . Below are the 25 most recent complaints reported for Chevrolet Aveo vehicles.
Latest 25 complaints
Chevrolet Aveo 2008
- Date Of Incident: 2024-07-08
- Date Complaint: 2024-09-08
- VIN: KL1TD56698B
- Components: ENGINE
- Summary: California catalytic converter breaking
Chevrolet Aveo 2008
- Date Of Incident: 2024-07-19
- Date Complaint: 2024-08-19
- Fire: 1
- VIN: KL1TD66618B
- Components: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM,UNKNOWN OR OTHER
- Summary: There was no prior warnings or notices that there was an issue. While diving on a major road with my children, smoke started coming into the cabin from the vents, and around the stereo. Luckily I was near a very vacant parking lot and immediately pulled over. I removed the kids from the car safely and did open the hood to try troubleshoot the problem. There was no smoke anywhere under the hood. Immediately after, sparks started falling from under the steering wheel to the gas pedal. Immediately after that the car was engulfed in flames. The car is currently located at my local police impound and is available for inspection upon request. From the time the smoke started to when the car was engulfed, it was approximately 5 minutes. This could have been dangerous had we been on a highway and unable to pull over and get out of the car safely within that time. It was only inspected briefly by the fire department who arrived to put out the fire and they reported it was an electrical issue that caused the fire.
Chevrolet Aveo 2008
- Date Of Incident: 2024-07-04
- Date Complaint: 2024-07-08
- VIN: KL1TD56658B
- Components: POWER TRAIN,ENGINE
- Summary: The contact owns a 2008 Chevrolet Aveo. The contact stated that while driving approximately 15 MPH, the transmission became unbolted and separated from the vehicle. Additionally, the engine separated from the motor mounts rendering the vehicle undrivable. The vehicle was later towed the local mechanic. The cause of the failure was not yet determined. The local dealer was notified of the failure. The manufacturer was not notified of the failure. The failure mileage was 121,000.
Chevrolet Aveo 2006
- Date Of Incident: 2024-04-05
- Date Complaint: 2024-06-12
- VIN: KL1TD56676B
- Components: STRUCTURE,UNKNOWN OR OTHER,SERVICE BRAKES
- Summary: Front subframe. Pulls one way during acceleration and pulling the opposite way during braking
Chevrolet Aveo 2009
- Date Of Incident: 2023-09-15
- Date Complaint: 2024-01-23
- VIN: KL1TD66E29B
- Components: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING,ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
- Summary: The contact owns a 2009 Chevrolet Aveo. The contact stated while the vehicle was parked, the vehicle shut off independently. The contact stated that the vehicle failed to restart and was towed to the dealer. The dealer informed the contact that they could not diagnose the vehicle because the vehicle failed to start. The dealer informed the contact that an unknown wiring harness might need to be installed to restart the vehicle; however, the part had been discontinued. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The contact related the failure to GM Campaign Number: N110290. The manufacturer was not notified of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 90,000.
Chevrolet Aveo 2006
- Date Of Incident: 2023-12-13
- Date Complaint: 2024-01-22
- VIN: KL1TG66686B
- Components: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM,EXTERIOR LIGHTING
- Summary: The splicer connected to the fuse box in the engine burns up after a while of use causing the Dash lights, right brake light and front marker light to not work at night. It is a major safety issue and hundreds/thousands of complaints online (via google) have been made about it burning up.
Chevrolet Aveo 2005
- Date Of Incident: 2022-08-01
- Date Complaint: 2023-05-09
- VIN: KL1TG62605B
- Components: EXTERIOR LIGHTING
- Summary: The contact's daughter owns a 2005 Chevrolet Aveo. The contact stated that intermittently, the headlights failed to illuminate. The contact's daughter had received notification of NHTSA Campaign Number: 14V261000 (Exterior Lighting). The contact made a local dealer aware of the failure and the recall; however, the dealer informed the contact that parts were on backorder. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was not made aware of the failure. The approximate failure mileage was 60,000.
Chevrolet Aveo 2006
- Date Of Incident: 2023-02-01
- Date Complaint: 2023-03-08
- VIN: KL1TD66686B
- Components: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM,VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL,ENGINE
- Summary: This is happening to my car. Would like them to fix it . Manufacture defect and it is a huge safety issue. Effect pedal function. Some customers may comment on an intermittent malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) being Illuminated with a message or an indicator that displays Reduced Engine Power. The technician may observe on a scan tool DTC P2138 - Accelerator Pedal Position (APP) Sensor 1-2 Correlation set as Current or in History. This condition may be caused by water intrusion into the instrument panel (IP) to body harness connector, which carries the APP sensor signals to the ECM/PCM. This water intrusion results in a voltage difference between APP Sensor 1 and APP Sensor 2 that exceeds a predetermined value for more than a calibrated period of time, setting P2138. This technical bulletin provides repair information for repairing the ip to body harness connector to correct a customer concern for intermittent malfunction indicator lamp (mil) illuminated with reduced engine power displayed and dtc p2138 set. Known issue. Has not been recalled yet. https://www.tsbsearch.com/Chevrolet/07-06-04-019E
Chevrolet Aveo 2007
- Date Of Incident: 2022-12-31
- Date Complaint: 2023-01-31
- VIN: KL1TD66687B
- Components: FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE
- Summary: The contact owns a 2007 Chevrolet Aveo. The contact was made aware of NHTSA Campaign Number: 06V398000 (Fuel System, Gasoline) however, the VIN was not included in the recall. The contact stated that after the vehicle was involved in an accident, the vehicle lost motive power and failed to restart on various occasions. No warning lights were illuminated, and the vehicle was towed to the contact's residence. The vehicle was then towed to an independent mechanic, where it was diagnosed that the fuel pump needed to be replaced. The vehicle was repaired; however, the contact stated that the failure had reoccurred, and the vehicle failed to restart. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was unknown.
Chevrolet Aveo 2010
- Date Of Incident: 2010-01-01
- Date Complaint: 2022-10-28
- VIN: KL1TD5DE7AB
- Components: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM,ENGINE
- Summary: The contact owns a 2010 Chevrolet Aveo. The contact stated that while driving at an undisclosed speed and attempting to stop the vehicle, the vehicle was bouncing. The contact also stated the key had gotten stuck inside the ignition switch. The contact called the local dealer and was informed that the failure could be attributed to driver's error. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer had been informed of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 5,000.
Chevrolet Aveo 2008
- Date Of Incident: 2022-10-23
- Date Complaint: 2022-10-26
- VIN: kl1td66618b
- Components: POWER TRAIN
- Summary: The left side mount-to-mount bracket bolt broke when accelerating normally from a stop. This is one of the bolts that holds the engine to the frame. This caused my shift stick to be thrown back on every acceleration. This is an obvious safety risk. I have not yet had this problem verified or confirmed by anyone. The car seemed to drive well and normal before and up to this incident.
Chevrolet Aveo 2008
- Date Of Incident: 2022-02-17
- Date Complaint: 2022-02-17
- VIN: KL1TD56608B
- Components: AIR BAGS
- Summary: The contact's son owns a 2008 Chevrolet Aveo. The contact stated that while her son was driving at an undisclosed speed, the passenger's side air bag warning light was illuminated. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic and diagnosed that the passenger's side air bag needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was not made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was unavailable.
Chevrolet Aveo 2008
- Date Of Incident: 2022-02-01
- Date Complaint: 2022-02-01
- VIN: KL1TD66608B
- Components: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
- Summary: In-dash clock module contains the vehicle 'Check Engine Light' - required to pass inspection. Solder joints are defective ('cold' or cracked) creating intermittent electrical connections. Prevents warning of engine defects to driver. Solder defects eventually cause destruction of the module incurring unreimbursed denial of transport and expense to driver to repair.
Chevrolet Aveo 2005
- Date Of Incident: 2021-09-08
- Date Complaint: 2021-10-08
- VIN: KL1TD52695B
- Components: ENGINE
- Summary: The contact owns a 2005 Chevrolet Aveo. The contact stated while driving 45 MPH and making a stop, the vehicle inadvertently lost motive power. The contact was unable to restart the vehicle after several attempts. The contact was able to push the vehicle to the nearby gas station with assistance. The contact refilled the coolant reservoir and was able to restart the vehicle. The vehicle was taken to the independent mechanic who diagnosed that the vehicle had overheated, and the valve cover gasket needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired however, the valve cover gasket was sealed. The dealer and the manufacturer were not notified of the failure. The vehicle was not repaired. The approximate failure mileage was 140,000.
Chevrolet Aveo 2005
- Date Of Incident: 2021-08-28
- Date Complaint: 2021-08-28
- VIN: kl1td62615b
- Components: ENGINE
- Summary: Timing belt/chain broke. Car is below the 60,000 mile mark for scheduled replacement as stated from manufacturer. Car broke down suddenly in the middle of the road creating a hazard to the driver and others.
Latest 5 recalls Chevrolet Aveo
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has issued 9 recalls for different components of the Chevrolet Aveo.You can explore the year of the Volkswagen Jetta you are interested in by selecting it from the list.
- Model: Chevrolet Aveo 2009
- Report Received Date: 2014-07-29
- Manufacturer: General Motors LLC
- Components: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FLUID
- Summary: General Motors LLC (GM) is recalling certain model year 2009-2010 Chevrolet Aveo and 2009 Pontiac G3 vehicles. The vehicles may contain brake fluid which does not protect against corrosion of the valves inside the anti-lock brake system (ABS) module, affecting the closing motion of the valves.
- Consequence: If the ABS valve corrodes it may result in longer brake pedal travel or reduced performance, increasing the risk of a vehicle crash.
- Remedy: GM will notify owners, and dealers will replace the ABS module, free of charge, in any vehicle that did not have its module replaced under a previous customer satisfaction campaign. The recall began in late September 2014. Owners may contact GM customer service at 1-800-222-1020 (Chevrolet), and 1-800-762-2737 (Pontiac). GM's number for this recall is 14505.
- Model: Chevrolet Aveo 2010
- Report Received Date: 2014-07-29
- Manufacturer: General Motors LLC
- Components: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FLUID
- Summary: General Motors LLC (GM) is recalling certain model year 2009-2010 Chevrolet Aveo and 2009 Pontiac G3 vehicles. The vehicles may contain brake fluid which does not protect against corrosion of the valves inside the anti-lock brake system (ABS) module, affecting the closing motion of the valves.
- Consequence: If the ABS valve corrodes it may result in longer brake pedal travel or reduced performance, increasing the risk of a vehicle crash.
- Remedy: GM will notify owners, and dealers will replace the ABS module, free of charge, in any vehicle that did not have its module replaced under a previous customer satisfaction campaign. The recall began in late September 2014. Owners may contact GM customer service at 1-800-222-1020 (Chevrolet), and 1-800-762-2737 (Pontiac). GM's number for this recall is 14505.
- Model: Chevrolet Aveo 2004
- Report Received Date: 2014-05-19
- Manufacturer: General Motors LLC
- Components: EXTERIOR LIGHTING:HEADLIGHTS
- Summary: General Motors is recalling certain model year 2004-2008 Chevrolet Aveo vehicles equipped with daytime running lights (DRL). In the affected vehicles, there may be heat generated within the DRL module located in the center console in the instrument panel, which could melt the DRL module.
- Consequence: If the DRL module melts due to the heat generation, it could cause a vehicle fire.
- Remedy: GM will notify owners, and dealers will install a revised DRL module, inspect the wiring connector for heat damage, and clean the DRL circuit grounds. Owners were sent interim notices on August 14, 2014. The recall began on February 6, 2015. Owners may contact General Motors customer service at 1-800-222-1020 (Chevrolet). General Motors recall number for this campaign is 14236.
- Model: Chevrolet Aveo 2005
- Report Received Date: 2014-05-19
- Manufacturer: General Motors LLC
- Components: EXTERIOR LIGHTING:HEADLIGHTS
- Summary: General Motors is recalling certain model year 2004-2008 Chevrolet Aveo vehicles equipped with daytime running lights (DRL). In the affected vehicles, there may be heat generated within the DRL module located in the center console in the instrument panel, which could melt the DRL module.
- Consequence: If the DRL module melts due to the heat generation, it could cause a vehicle fire.
- Remedy: GM will notify owners, and dealers will install a revised DRL module, inspect the wiring connector for heat damage, and clean the DRL circuit grounds. Owners were sent interim notices on August 14, 2014. The recall began on February 6, 2015. Owners may contact General Motors customer service at 1-800-222-1020 (Chevrolet). General Motors recall number for this campaign is 14236.
- Model: Chevrolet Aveo 2006
- Report Received Date: 2014-05-19
- Manufacturer: General Motors LLC
- Components: EXTERIOR LIGHTING:HEADLIGHTS
- Summary: General Motors is recalling certain model year 2004-2008 Chevrolet Aveo vehicles equipped with daytime running lights (DRL). In the affected vehicles, there may be heat generated within the DRL module located in the center console in the instrument panel, which could melt the DRL module.
- Consequence: If the DRL module melts due to the heat generation, it could cause a vehicle fire.
- Remedy: GM will notify owners, and dealers will install a revised DRL module, inspect the wiring connector for heat damage, and clean the DRL circuit grounds. Owners were sent interim notices on August 14, 2014. The recall began on February 6, 2015. Owners may contact General Motors customer service at 1-800-222-1020 (Chevrolet). General Motors recall number for this campaign is 14236.
Latest negative Chevrolet Aveo car reviews
Latest positive Chevrolet Aveo car reviews
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Vehicle year: 2004
Hey there! If your car has over 60,000 miles, it's a good idea to have the timing belt checked out.
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Vehicle year: 2011
I'm so happy with this car! I have the 1LT with Black Metallic paint, XM Radio, rear spoiler, driver convenience package, driver information center, anti-lock brakes, air conditioning, and automatic transmission. The car is extremely quiet both inside and out. All the doors shut with a luxury sound (unlike the tin can sound on other economy cars). Fuel mileage is great - I average 36-40 MPG @ 68 MPH on the highway depending on wind direction/terrain. In the city, the average is more like 29 MPG. Visibility out of all windows is great. For me, there are no blind spots. With OnStar and a superb warranty (100K powertrain), you can't go wrong!
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Vehicle year: 2008
I hope this message finds you well! I wanted to share my experience with the Chevy Aveo. My family and I have owned three Aveos, both LS and LT models, and have never had any significant issues. Currently, I am driving an automatic LT sedan and am consistently averaging 30 mpg's combined city/highway. I believe that some people who complain about MPG's may be driving their cars too aggressively. Personally, I drive normally most of the time. Additionally, I have been able to get excellent deals from my dealer, making this car a real money saver. In fact, due to the lower cost of the car, I spend much less overall on this car than my friends who buy imports in the same class. Thank you for taking the time to read my message!
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Vehicle year: 2004
I've been driving my 2004 Aveo LS for 6 years now and it's been a great experience. I haven't had to replace any parts except for a gas cap (which only cost me $19.50). The mileage is fantastic, and the seating is really comfortable. Plus, I can easily hook up a canine seat belt to the back or front seat belts. I'm planning on driving it for another 2-3 years!
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Vehicle year: 2004
Hi there! I hope you're doing well. I just wanted to share my experience with this amazing vehicle. My wife and I drive quite a bit during the week, about 110 to 120 miles a day, and we were looking for a fuel-efficient car that could handle the mileage. We stumbled upon this gem and it has exceeded our expectations! We initially thought it would be a 'throw-away' car, but we were wrong. It has been incredibly reliable, fuel-efficient, and surprisingly spacious. The majority of our miles are on the highway and it rides so smoothly. I highly recommend it!
Are you having problems with your Chevrolet Aveo?
Jo Herzog 2025-06-23
Vehicle year: 2008
I've had my Aveo for 4 years now and it's only got 32,000 miles on it. Unfortunately, I've had some issues with the car's electrical system. First, my tire pressure light comes on all the time, and now my oil light is coming on and off. The dealer told me it's a sensor problem and it will cost $257 to fix. Now my check engine light is on, and it seems to be the same issue. The sensor will cost $357 to replace. I'm not sure if I'll fix it yet, but I'll have the car paid off in May of next year. Then, it's goodbye to this piece of crap car!
Javon Ziemann 2025-06-23
Vehicle year: 2008
I strongly advise against purchasing a Chevy Aveo. In my experience, I have had to replace the radiator, transmission, computer, and now the head gasket has blown. Unfortunately, this has been a waste of money. I am disappointed with my experience and will not be purchasing a Chevy again.
Joshua Jenkins 2025-06-19
Vehicle year: 2004
Hi there! I noticed that you're considering purchasing a 2004 Aveo. While I had a good experience with the car's mileage, I did run into some issues with the timing belt and pulley. Unfortunately, if the timing belt goes, it can cause significant damage to the engine. In my case, the pulley caused some problems as well. I just wanted to share my experience with you so that you can make an informed decision. Let me know if you have any questions!
Barton Kub 2025-06-16
Vehicle year: 2010
I bought this car back in Jan 2010 to use as my daily commuter car. I was comparing it to other cars such as Fit, Versa, Yaris, and Accent. I ultimately picked the Chevy because of the low price and lots of incentives. However, I have to admit that I am now regretting my decision. I should have spent more and bought the Fit. It's true that you get what you pay for. This car struggles to even get to 40 mph and the 4 spd auto is just lackluster. Unfortunately, the check engine light came on 4 times in the 20,000 miles I put on it. The dealer keeps telling me that the gas cap is loose, but I know I clicked it at least 3 times. It gets 24 mpg overall, which is not great. The interior looks and feels cheap, which is a shame. It's clear that it's a cheap car. I've already lost 5 grand in value, which is very disappointing.
Sherwood Ward 2025-06-09
Vehicle year: 2011
Although the Aveo has a comfortable ride and nice looks, it has not been very economical to own. Unfortunately, many things have broken down and the fuel economy is not great for a small car. I personally would not recommend this vehicle. Since purchasing the car in 1/2014 with 52k miles, I have had to replace or repair several parts including 2 wheel bearings, ignition coil, AC compressor and expansion valve, coolant and heater hoses, throttle body, pedal acceleration sensor, gas pump, and both oxygen sensors. Additionally, the specific tire size is expensive and not widely available. On the bright side, the car has never left me stranded and all of the parts are now new. However, the fuel economy is abysmal at 21mpg at best.